This bike is the second one that Carl has built for me. It is identical in every way except the it has a 1.5 cm longer seat tube, which is my compromise to too may years of riding level top tubed bikes. I still have the first frame which is now about a year old. I liked it so much that I don’t want to be without one of these bikes to ride. When one is down for repair or maintenance I still have a perfect bike to ride. Nothing can be done to improve the ride and handling qualities of these bikes. They are the culmination of my search for the perfect bike. The great thing is they were built by one of the nicest people you will ever encounter in business. Carl and Loretta make spending money on a bike a pleasure which now days is rare. Thanks to both of you.